cranky
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I pace my self. Start off slow and bring it back a notch.
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Post by cranky on Jan 22, 2008 14:25:17 GMT -8
Who is using Watts meters? How many days or how long before you could stay over 200 watts? I'm suffering on mine and it can't realy mantin above 200. I have probably 10 hours in.
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Post by DaleP on Feb 2, 2008 14:41:47 GMT -8
Scott, I was looking at the CycleU.com site where thaey have weekly indoor TT's. They are having a season long competition and you can view rider's various results online, including Max Watts, Ave Watts, etc. Does not directly answer your question but is interesting none the less. Click this link - spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pYlkwoTffmSpNb6yL0c-kSQI would say the caution here is that you have no idea the caliber of rider. I have to believe that those maintaining average watts of 300+ for 15 minutes are mighty powerful riders. Another "For what it's worth" statement. 100 Watt Ave ;D 150 Watt Ave  200 Watt Ave  250 Watt Ave  300 Watt Ave  |
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Post by dastud on Feb 4, 2008 12:46:23 GMT -8
Hmm I recognize some of the names like Ian McKissick (pro for BMC and former elite TT national champion), and Martin Criminale is a strong 1-2 road and track rider. These guys I know from experience will stomp me in a TT.
During cross season I would average 240 to 260 watts on the computrainer for a hard 40 minute effort and right now while riding an hour and half to two base miles trainer ride I average about 160 with heart rate of 140. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that I would never be a great TT rider as steady state riding and maintained wattage output isn't my strong suite.
Another thing to take into account is rider weight... A larger rider is going to put out higher wattage than a comparable ligher weight rider.
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Post by dastud on Feb 6, 2008 13:01:26 GMT -8
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Post by Wrench Goode on Feb 7, 2008 10:41:02 GMT -8
Profiling that sounds unlawful.  Wattage, so may variables yet so fun to compare. 250w for 3 hour leaves me unable to walk the next day!!  What else to I need to know??  |
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Post by Mike S on Feb 7, 2008 10:53:10 GMT -8
What else to I need to know?? I know I need to find someone to buy me a power meter. ;D |
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Post by DaleP on Feb 7, 2008 14:43:21 GMT -8
Profiling that sounds unlawful. Wattage, so may variables yet so fun to compare. 250w for 3 hour leaves me unable to walk the next day!! What else to I need to know?? All of this wattage info is very interesting and makes me believe I should quite biking altogether. I know I can average 220 watts for 30 minutes on my trainer as I did this morning, but going by my meter, 250 watts for 3 hours? Man, I'd like to be in my 20's or 30's again. The thing is, when I am by myself, in the basement, on my trainer, I am much more aware of pain. In a competitive environment, maybe, just maybe I could sustain 250 watts for some period of time but I cannot imagine 3 hours at that steady rate of output. That has got to really hurt.  |
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Post by Wrench Goode on Feb 7, 2008 16:31:33 GMT -8
What I'm getting at here is there are two many variables to take into consideration to be comparing precise numbers with other people. 250 watts on a trainer for 3 hours would kill... However, 250 on the road taken in an average over three hours is very different. The point of using watts for training is to look at what you put out 4 weeks ago and what your putting out today. That will tell you if your training is really training or just riding... Watts meters vary in calibration, riders vary in weight, the list goes on, its a better way to gauge training than heart rate, and thats all it is.
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Post by DaleP on Feb 7, 2008 17:44:51 GMT -8
I agree David. Far to many variables. I think too, that riders like myself, whom have some sort of comfort level, may never know what we could max out at because we tend to limit ourselves mentally. We all have good days, bad days and those days in between. When I did the TT test in December on the computrainer, my Steady State Watts were 184 low and 204 high. I have made improvement in power since then so I suppose my training is doing the trick. However, I have no idea in the difference between the readings on the computrainer and my meter but 184 SS was about what I averaged on my meter in December so the improvement is certainly there. Biggest question is, will it transfer to the road?
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Post by Wrench Goode on Feb 7, 2008 17:58:29 GMT -8
Sure it will. It will make a differnce in every aspect of riding, physicly and mentaly. Base test (establishing zones) + Training with Watts meter = Dale going faster, everywhere. Watts are where its at. ;D
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Wattage, so may variables yet so fun to compare. 250w for 3 hour leaves me unable to walk the next day!! 
What else to I need to know?? 
